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PostSubject: Erik Fisher Character Application   Erik Fisher Character Application EmptyThu Aug 23, 2012 9:38 am

When he's working.
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When he's casual.
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When he's proper.
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Age: Thirty Four Years Old
Gender: Male
Race: Human
Birthplace: Sanctimonia
Deity: Akash and Keilm

Biography
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Erik was a quiet, insular little boy who took more from a book than he did than his peers. Always reading, always learning, and always looking for ways to get ahead; he would often do his own thing, and show a brilliant intelligence to find a way to try and get what he wanted.
This would pay off one day when an unfortunate incident involving a fair young maiden, an unexpected early return of her family, a couple locked doors and a short chase would ensue. After performing field practices to restart the obese father’s heart, while wearing little more than leggings, Erik would become a friend of the family (even after the failure of his relationship with the maiden), and use these credentials to access one of the best colleges in the Heartlands. Upon arriving at this academy, Erik would set himself as the top of his class, and helming various experiments and writing treatises and doctrines on medicine and chemistry that are advancing the understanding of science still today, though his theories are not complete yet. However, several years into his stay at the university, he would be requested to leave after a particularly poor turn of events that Erik still claims was not his fault.
His trade would then turn nomadic, his reputation as a traveling doctor looking for work anywhere he could find would keep him busy when work would fall upon him. Problems would be solved one way or another, through his direct intervention or through his advice. Coins have an odd relationship with Erik, they can keep flowing and stay around and enjoy the ride, or they can flow and leave as soon as they get there, sometimes they stop flowing, but that is the rarest of them. He either earns them legally or a way that's none of your business.




Skills:

Education and Intelligence – Overview - [High] A man who has more interest in a book then what another person has to say. His mind leading him to be one of the most intelligent mundane alchemist known to Sanctimonia, pioneering science and medical knowledge. He's able to create mixtures, whether to help or to harm people, and is able to conduct first aid and advanced surgery if need be.

Cunning and Wisdom – Overview [Average] Erik Fisher is a cunning sort of man, though not as sly as a rogue and not as brash as a large knight, he is still able to construct semi-believable lies. He's more of a man to keep out of the public eye than to try to escape it. "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure."

Physical Survivability/Combat Ability – Overview - [Average] Fisher was never trained in combat experience, only how to use the basic knife and short sword, and he never took to liking it. He thought that it was better to read on how to construct a better way to dispose of his enemies. UPDATE: Fisher, after being brutally attacked and suffering from a broken nose in a bar fight, took to his friend Aedelric Adahn to teach him in the ways of the sword. After learning how to use his Hand and A Half Wakizashi and Tanto, he is now AVERAGE in combat livability.

Arcane/Mystical Abilities – [Poor] Erik Fisher is not exactly fond of the arcane. Though he finds it useful, he despises mages who rely on it to do everything for themselves. He thinks that they're useless in any other field, but really it stems from his own inability to cast magic.

Survival Ability – Overview - [Below Average]: Though retaining knowledge of many herbs and plants found in the forest, Erik doesn't very well appreciate the outdoors. His physical prowess, weak and measly, keeps him from hunting game and keeps him on a strong eye for edible plants.

Inventory
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Medical Belt - Includes a small amount of medical supplies, sulfa powder, bandages, a small spool of wire, and a small amount of magnesium
Scalpel - A basic cutting tool, only used for small incisions
Needle - A basic needle with a small eye for threading
A basic satchel - Carrying more bandages, firewater, basic potions kit, mortar and pestle, and a calcinator, along with a few custom bags of makeshift black powder and a small amount of iron tubing.
Black Hand and a Half Wakizashi - Forged by Aedelric Adahn, dubbed Erik Fisher's Greater Scalpel
Black Tactical Tanto Knife - Forged by Aedelric Adahn, dubbed Erik Fisher's Great Scalpel


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PostSubject: Re: Erik Fisher Character Application   Erik Fisher Character Application EmptyThu Aug 23, 2012 9:46 am

A support character, and a pariicularly useful design of one that fits the canon as well as realism. Our friendship aside, looking over what's here, I must say I like what I see. I'd like to see some more of his roleplaying in action, but I think I'm going to toss you an Approve.
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PostSubject: Re: Erik Fisher Character Application   Erik Fisher Character Application EmptyThu Aug 23, 2012 10:22 am

Very nice application, i have also seen you roleplay in aeria, and you Roleplay like someone skilled .. its an approve for me
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PostSubject: Re: Erik Fisher Character Application   Erik Fisher Character Application EmptyThu Aug 23, 2012 10:42 am

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and is able to conduct first aid and advanced surgery if need be.

Oh thank god, this could come in handy. The science of the new age, and the such :D. I like the sound of this character, and it's a great page in terms of letting us know what we need to.

I do think you should remove the magical prowess though, having tiny bits of magic is highly improbable. It's not something you can just read out of a book in this current age of the world, I don't think, and as you might read many times around the forums - magic is a force much rarer to come by and much more specialised in Aeria.

I'll approve after those changes, I think. Apologies if I come off as a bit of a nitpicky wanker.
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PostSubject: Re: Erik Fisher Character Application   Erik Fisher Character Application EmptyThu Aug 23, 2012 10:43 am

I don't think he's too over powered. However, I do think that it is entirely subjective and dependent on the character you're interacting with on the matter of blackmail and speechcraft, considering you're not going to be able to lie your way through most things.

Another big issue that really dug at me is the magic. It's quite a rare force, and for him to even know the most basic of spells would need explanation. We know he hasn't studied under anyone for any amount of years, and they don't really put that stuff in tomes anymore.

Otherwise, his intelligence seems quite high. Of course, this is the main basis of your character but you also need to take into account that he will be progressing and growing slowly as you maintain contact with others and learn new skills and tricks throughout the course of his RP. I advise you tone it down slightly for both the easy passing of this application and the development (and therefore overall fun factor) of your playing of this character.

If you're willing to address the issues I've stated, I'd more than likely throw in my accept, dear friend.
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PostSubject: Re: Erik Fisher Character Application   Erik Fisher Character Application EmptyThu Aug 23, 2012 10:48 am

I can fix this.
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PostSubject: Re: Erik Fisher Character Application   Erik Fisher Character Application EmptyFri Aug 24, 2012 4:00 am

I have made my share of medical RP characters. There are 2 kinds: the long drawn out kind with one person typing, and the field medic type where a couple short sentences is enough to cover the basics. Either way, good job. I did not see much of your character, but he seemed witty and believable from a distance by the way he hid under that table during my mini. Keep RPing him as a witty fellow and you get to keep my approval.
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PostSubject: Re: Erik Fisher Character Application   Erik Fisher Character Application EmptyFri Aug 24, 2012 6:56 am

As I stated in the application, this will be more of a field medic, meaning a few /mes and getting him out. Advanced stuff I assume goes to some mage, though to the IC reluctance of my character. If there's really no guy who does the surgery, I'll go all super drawn out guy.
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PostSubject: Re: Erik Fisher Character Application   Erik Fisher Character Application EmptyFri Aug 24, 2012 7:14 am

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a small amount of magnesium

Hrm....


I should go ahead and say this ahead of time, and all you newcomers should pay attention to this: Aeria has it's own set of rules and mechanics regarding physics. For the most part, it's the same, but a lot of the materials of the world are inherently different from the periodic table you've got in real world. So basically, while the concept of a quantum world is somewhat accurate, it's applied very differently in Aeria, and we don't have all the same materials as in the real world.

While I understand why you'd have magnesium in an actual first-aid kit, the same rules don't have to apply here- more importantly, the metal you'd be using wouldn't actually exist in the same sense. Perhaps you could come up with another metal with a similar purpose, but more fantasy-based origins. If you do, feel free to add suggest it as lore (send it through Pat first, though).

If you'd prefer the easier route, you could substitute it with some basic alchemic products or something. I notice Erik has no magical ability, but you could sub that with alchemic ability, which seems more relevant to his occupation. That'd be very with the times and setting, too: same old alchemy but superior treatment and delivery methods, and maybe even fast-acting catalysts.

Play around with it, don't feel constrained to your time-tested medic archetype. You've got room to expand and try new things in a fantasy setting.
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PostSubject: Re: Erik Fisher Character Application   Erik Fisher Character Application EmptyFri Aug 24, 2012 7:43 am

The only point of the magnesium was to use it as a fast acting fire to quickly heat the sort of iron metal rod I'd keep in the satchel, used for cauterization of the wound. Putting magnesium inside of a wound would be catastrophic. It's in it's purest mineral form, used to create extreme heat. I'll remove it though.
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PostSubject: Re: Erik Fisher Character Application   Erik Fisher Character Application EmptyFri Aug 24, 2012 8:09 am

I would suggest a salamander heart string for cauterization. They have a natural internal body temperature close to that of magma and it would likely function well to cauterize wounds. The downside is that it is incredibly rare and would probably have to be kept in a special container. Just an idea though, so take it up with Pat.
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PostSubject: Re: Erik Fisher Character Application   Erik Fisher Character Application EmptyFri Aug 24, 2012 8:17 am

I will say that most people usually wouldn't worship Kielm. Most wouldn't even know he exists, I think. Xeloras can correct me on this if ever shows up again.

Anyway, usually people who want to worship nature would worship the spirits called Vaettir, which inhabit pretty much everything in the natural world to some degree. Vaettir are localized and numerous, and, for the most part, only semi-intelligent. More like emotions and urges than intelligent creatures. There are offerings and prayers one can make to stir the Vaettir to your aid, though.

Vaettir worship would be rare in Sanctimonia nowadays. I'd think that their worship / reverence would be restricted to family traditions passed down in rural villages, for long time farming, hunting, and such families. More serious worship would be rare and largely extinct. The worship of Tyr has pretty thoroughly smashed those previous traditions.

Feel free to message me if you have any questions.
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PostSubject: Re: Erik Fisher Character Application   Erik Fisher Character Application EmptyFri Aug 24, 2012 10:25 am

Pat wrote:
I will say that most people usually wouldn't worship Kielm. Most wouldn't even know he exists, I think. Xeloras can correct me on this if ever shows up again.

Why is he in the lore that new people see then? That's giving a false impression and then to call them out on it is downright unfair and offputting. It's hard enough to jump head first and lay your ideas for a character out for all to see, especially when you don't know the world around you the slightest bit - and Aeria's lore is DEEP.

And you seem to take such pleasure in pointing out all the flaws in new people's pages when the slightest and most excusable little thing comes up, when you're the reason we don't have any lore about the important things in the RP like the god damn nation its set in.

And Kain, you're not excused from this either. You sure know how to make someone feel unwelcome with baffling amounts of this shit.

This page is great, and y'all doing the same thing you always do that pushes people away.



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PostSubject: Re: Erik Fisher Character Application   Erik Fisher Character Application EmptyFri Aug 24, 2012 10:27 am

I have to agree with Krug here. I feel like there's a lot of nit-picking going on. What's the big deal about having some magnesium? It's not going to hurt anyone. And if a deity isn't supposed to be worshiped, please specify that in the pantheon thread. Or remove it from the list.
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PostSubject: Re: Erik Fisher Character Application   Erik Fisher Character Application EmptyFri Aug 24, 2012 10:34 am

Brohans. I appreciate the nit picking, it points out what I don't know so I learn it. Don't want a flame war here, I'd just like the accepts, pending and denials.
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PostSubject: Re: Erik Fisher Character Application   Erik Fisher Character Application EmptyFri Aug 24, 2012 11:26 am

I have to say I agree with J. Jordan here. The nit-picking is good, because if the person tolerates a little nit-picking, that means they are willing and able to learn the lore and modify characters, and if they can modify characters and their pages willingly, that means they aren't going to be trouble to deal with in the future.

Also, besides the minor lore mistakes, I can accept this. With or without them edited, really.
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PostSubject: Re: Erik Fisher Character Application   Erik Fisher Character Application EmptyFri Aug 24, 2012 3:33 pm

so i decided to only comment on one thing and aim it at the general newbie crowd 'cause it would eventually become a major flaw if he stuck to it and people continued to have a misconception over it.

clearly, kain is the devil


J. Jo, here's a suggestion for a substitute from https://aeriaroleplay.rpg-board.net/t36-the-metals-of-aeria called Motile.

The Metals of Aeria wrote:
Motile; A very thin, soft, superconductive metal. It is easily made into sheets of tape or paper, and can carry electric charge and heat very well without breaking.

Motile also takes friction and generates it into an electrical charge. Build up enough and it starts to get very hot, very fast. Your character could, instead, use tempered motile rods, smack them against each other a few times, and suddenly, you've got a superheated rod. Unlike a salamander heart or some ingredient, you wouldn't have to replace these constantly, except maybe every few years after they've taken too great a beating.

Do you want to try that idea, Jordan?
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PostSubject: Re: Erik Fisher Character Application   Erik Fisher Character Application EmptyFri Aug 24, 2012 3:34 pm

I'd love to use those. They seem very nice.
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PostSubject: Re: Erik Fisher Character Application   Erik Fisher Character Application EmptyFri Aug 24, 2012 3:39 pm

yay
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PostSubject: Re: Erik Fisher Character Application   Erik Fisher Character Application EmptyFri Aug 24, 2012 9:56 pm

Where to start. Well, first I'm gonna say that I read the comments of the thread before the actual characterpage itself and just based on what I saw of Jordan's posting in response to the near-shitstorm that was a brewin' I was ready to accept. I then read the character page proper and I'll say that I really like the bio and the page overall. I'm gonna put down the biggest ACCEPT I can and move this to approved. Though if I had to continue the trend of nitpicking I'd say that I wouldn't mind seeing a few splashes of colour in the page itself but that hardly matters in the least.
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PostSubject: Re: Erik Fisher Character Application   Erik Fisher Character Application EmptyMon Aug 27, 2012 2:58 pm

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Black Hand and a Half Wakizashi - Forged by Aedelric Adahn, dubbed Erik Fisher's Greater Scalpel
Black Tactical Tanto Knife - Forged by Aedelric Adahn, dubbed Erik Fisher's Great Scalpel

I have to raise a concern here. Serious concern, like.

Whilst it's completely fine to obtain weapons through IC smithing, in fact that's fantastic and it makes me happy to know this happens, those particular weapons (that is, the japanesey blades) in our lore come from a wild and distant shore known as Kazoshu. And pretty much no-one has been there or has come from there.

Unless Aedelric has one hell of a good reason, you might have to change those swords to a less japanese equivalent.
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PostSubject: Re: Erik Fisher Character Application   Erik Fisher Character Application EmptyWed Aug 29, 2012 6:32 am

Krug raises a good point. Might I suggest something elven instead? I think elven weapons are somewhat exotic/unusual but easier to access.
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PostSubject: Re: Erik Fisher Character Application   Erik Fisher Character Application EmptyWed Aug 29, 2012 6:47 am

Me and Krug were able to clear up the misunderstanding. Really, the swords look nothing like their Japanese/Kazoshu ancestors.
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PostSubject: Re: Erik Fisher Character Application   Erik Fisher Character Application EmptyWed Aug 29, 2012 6:48 am

We talked it over on SF and I said that since they merely looked like them, sort of a modern take on the shape rather than the traditional curved ceremonial blades from Kazoshu, it was simply some kind of unique, elven influenced blade and nothing to do with Kazoshu.

also if they were from kazoshu they'd be called something else in koteiba, and not be given its original name cause me and jacque are original bastards
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