Deletion of Krug's Posts

As per request by Krug, I have deleted all his characters. However, he has also asked that his lore be deleted.

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4:45 PM - Krug: I have the right to ask for it to be recalled
4:45 PM - Krug: I think
4:45 PM - Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: Sadly, you don't, but i'll try to have it done.
4:45 PM - Krug: Dang

The lore was posted on Aeria, for the intent of usage on Aeria, and can be kept 100%, which would be disregarding his requests. However, as it went down:

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4:49 PM - Krug: And tbh I remember the admins saying we never contributed anything to the community but a load of grief
4:49 PM - Krug: so they won't mind all our lore contributions being deleted and new lore being written
4:49 PM - Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: You and them know that's not true, no need to hold a grudge. I'l lse what I can do, i'm only a mod.
4:50 PM - Krug: Still an arsehole comment
4:50 PM - Krug: Any lore you can delete, would be very appreciated if you could go ahead and do it
4:50 PM - Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: Sure, but you've all done the same.

I don't feel I have the liberty of deleting lore, so I would ask that we all discuss on how to approach this. Should we keep his lore? Re-write it? Perhaps borrow some elements and add anew? He has clearly stated that he wants it gone, and cares less about the community or how it operates without the lore. Morally his request is valid, but technically it is up to us, and we can suffer no penalties by ignoring him.

So, discuss.

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Never tell your password to anyone.
Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: https://aeriaroleplay.rpg-board.net/t727-deletion-of-krug-s-posts
Pat: okay so what I wonder here
Pat: is
Pat: When he talks about his lore
Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: Races, everything
Pat: is he talking about all of Occitan? Occitan, as a nation?
Pat: because
Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: Hmm, he made it?
Pat: Occitan wasn't him
Pat: but he added the most recent stuff
Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: He never refrenced it.
Pat: we can delete Kazoshu without problems
Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: But i'd have to assume that he meant it too. Any lore that was posted he wants deleted.
Pat: we were already thinking about it
Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: Isn't that Zaku?
Pat: no
Pat: that's Zaku
Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: What
Pat: er
Pat: wait
Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: XD
Pat: i messed up
Pat: LOL
Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: Is that Zaku? No, that's Zaku.
Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: 4:45 PM - Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: Yup, i'll try to work around it. What of yours?
4:45 PM - Zaku: I got nothing on there I care about
Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: So if you want it gone, go for it
Pat: kazoshu was krug's with some help from Zaku
Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: Still, in the clear for deletion if you want.
Pat: i find myself in a moral conundrum
Pat: because really it's not true that they didn't provide anything, they provided quite a lot, added a lot
Pat: but
Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: He wants it gone.
Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: But it is on our terms, we can do as we wish
Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: Do we like the lore? Do we still want it?
Pat: I like most of what he does
Pat: Well, here's what I think
Pat: if he wants it gone, we can get rid of Kazoshu and his most recent lore on Occitan
Pat: We won't get rid of Occitan itself, though
Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: What of the races?
Pat: Tieflings...
Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: The angels too, the dogs
Pat: not totally unique
Pat: canis are expendable
Pat: aasimar, not his lore
Pat: was a collaborative effort between me, him, and another guy
Pat: mostly the third guy

Here's my thoughts. It's a tough issue, though. Morally, it doesn't feel right to keep his stuff.

oh boy.

well, let's also think about what we can redo or replace if we remove some of the lore that might be considered irreplaceable or not entirely his.

Also, uh, you may as well ask him if Jacque shares the desire to have his lore removed. Jacque added a lot to Occitan, and I think, really, our main concern here is all the Occitan lore because that's the bulk of what they worked on.

Edit:

I think it'd be alright if we kept back-ups in the Admin section. Actually, I'll go ahead and add a special admin archive for stuff like this, it seems like something we should've done a while ago.

Krug told me to hold off on anything involving Jacque's stuff. I'll talk to him myself when he comes online.

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Thursday, October 18, 2012
5:10 PM - Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: Oi, I have a question.
5:10 PM - Jacque: Shoot.
5:10 PM - Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: Krug has asked to have his lore + characters removed from Aeria, what about your content?
5:11 PM - Jacque: Yeah, sure.
5:11 PM - Jacque: Do what you will brah
5:11 PM - Jacque: Idgaf
5:11 PM - Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: Well it isn't exactly that we want to remove it, but the Occitan lore was worked on by you two, and it's really up to you.
5:19 PM - Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: Hmm?
5:19 PM - Jacque: Sorry?
5:19 PM - Jacque: Sorry uh
5:20 PM - Jacque: I give my voice to krug
5:20 PM - Jacque: whatever krug says about occitan/whatever lore
5:20 PM - Jacque: goes
5:20 PM - Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: Alright, thanks.
5:20 PM - Jacque: Alright bro
5:20 PM - Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: And what of your characters?
5:20 PM - Jacque: what about them?
5:21 PM - Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: Keep em?
5:21 PM - Jacque: that wouldnt be logical
5:21 PM - Jacque: would it
5:21 PM - Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: I'll just archive them for the time being
5:21 PM - Jacque: That's like keeping Hitler's bed waiting for him to come back LOL
5:21 PM - Jacque: and no bro its cool
5:21 PM - Jacque: do what you want
5:21 PM - Jacque: a pirate IS free after all
5:21 PM - Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: Are you a pirate perhaps?
5:21 PM - Jacque: no
5:21 PM - Jacque: legitimate citizen
5:21 PM - Jacque: i never pirate
5:22 PM - Jacque: :)
5:22 PM - Venom (Cheeki Breeki) Ops: alrighty

Moved over a ton of things to the archives, and lore changes or anything are completely optional.