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PostSubject: Amber Sareth   Amber Sareth EmptyWed Feb 06, 2013 10:33 am

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General Information:

Biography:

Skills & Attributes:

Possession:

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I passed this through Pat, and according to him, her magical abilities and background checks out, I'll wait for his comments on the finished product, but I did research my stuff.


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PostSubject: Re: Amber Sareth   Amber Sareth EmptyWed Feb 06, 2013 12:02 pm

Yes fucking please.

I just really like this character....

Ill make you a Kazuth BFF and we can kawaii it up. XD


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PostSubject: Re: Amber Sareth   Amber Sareth EmptyWed Feb 06, 2013 12:26 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Amber Sareth   Amber Sareth EmptyWed Feb 06, 2013 12:32 pm

Venom meant accept

I'm positive.
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PostSubject: Re: Amber Sareth   Amber Sareth EmptyWed Feb 06, 2013 12:48 pm

Funny.

I'll have to set some time aside at another date to give it a good read. In the meantime, the pictures you chose don't display the best first impression. I suggest possibly using a more realistic...cat person.
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PostSubject: Re: Amber Sareth   Amber Sareth EmptyWed Feb 06, 2013 12:53 pm

Venom OPS wrote:
Funny.

I'll have to set some time aside at another date to give it a good read. In the meantime, the pictures you chose don't display the best first impression. I suggest possibly using a more realistic...cat person.

If you're talking about the anime-style one, then I've already scrapped it.

If you're talking about the real photograph, then I'm sorry to say that that's as real as cat girls get. I'm not too big on going through hundreds of laughably bad cosplayers dressed up as kitty people, or the cat girl porn to find something better than this. And in all honesty, photos are optional, so if you dislike it, by all means ignore it.

I do like the criticism though, I'll try and find something better sometime... Maybe.
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PostSubject: Re: Amber Sareth   Amber Sareth EmptyWed Feb 06, 2013 1:06 pm

Accept Accept accept accept accept
Because I like anime and kittens.
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PostSubject: Re: Amber Sareth   Amber Sareth EmptyWed Feb 06, 2013 1:19 pm

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Accept Accept accept accept accept
Because I like anime and kittens.

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PostSubject: Re: Amber Sareth   Amber Sareth EmptyWed Feb 06, 2013 2:04 pm

...I like mops, too.
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PostSubject: Re: Amber Sareth   Amber Sareth EmptyWed Feb 06, 2013 2:23 pm

This character is kawaii as fuck bro.

One question I have is directed more at the lore than yourself, and that is the ability to make people heavier or lighter. Is this even possible with the Sacred Field being what it is? I could understand changing the weight of of clothing and equipment, but as far as I know the Sacred Field prevents any magic from affecting someone directly.
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PostSubject: Re: Amber Sareth   Amber Sareth EmptyWed Feb 06, 2013 3:18 pm

Spadge wrote:
This character is kawaii as fuck bro.

One question I have is directed more at the lore than yourself, and that is the ability to make people heavier or lighter. Is this even possible with the Sacred Field being what it is? I could understand changing the weight of of clothing and equipment, but as far as I know the Sacred Field prevents any magic from affecting someone directly.

There are some ways of working around it, such as I have a Aranek shaman who dosent affect someone directly, but the air surrounding them, increasing the air friction to intense amounts
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PostSubject: Re: Amber Sareth   Amber Sareth EmptyWed Feb 06, 2013 4:54 pm

General Info: I've always made my opinions on Kazuth blatantly clear, but there's no rule against making them. Feline-esque isn't a word. Feline, an adjective meaning cat-like, is all you need.

Biography: In my opinion, the prologue is a bit too lengthy and overly descriptive. It also follows a rather cliched path of "Live->Find spellbook->learn magic." The second part is better, though it would've benefited from more description of the relationship between her and her mother, and maybe some specific events in her life that shaped her character. As long as it is, it still manages to be vague in those areas.

Skills & Attributes: I like how her size plays into what she can and can't do. Despite being a member of the hated Kazuth race, her natural abilities are given just enough emphasis. The magic she has is inventive.

Now let's talk about physics. Mass is what determines an object's inertia, i.e., the force required to move it. The greater the mass, the more force required to accelerate it.

Pounds are in fact units of force. They represent the force of gravity acting on an object. A 1-kilogram object weighs roughly 2.2 pounds in earth gravity.

Air resistance means objects can have a terminal velocity rather than continuing to accelerate (and it also means objects don't fall at the same rate). Featherfall would work exceptionally well in slowing a descent, as air resistance would literally make one fall like a feather if their mass was reduced enough.

The mechanics seem sound, if we're willing to accept that magic can somehow alter mass without otherwise affecting matter then any of these spells are possible. Unless I'm mistaken, the Sacred Field would prevent anyone's body (excluding their clothes or equipment) from being manipulated directly, unless Amber touched them. She could also manipulate her own body without much trouble.

Possessions: Yeah whatever

Goals: Make friends? Lol yeah right

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PostSubject: Re: Amber Sareth   Amber Sareth EmptyWed Feb 06, 2013 5:07 pm

Spadge wrote:
I could understand changing the weight of of clothing and equipment, but as far as I know the Sacred Field prevents any magic from affecting someone directly.

I talked to Pat, and changing the weight of a person does not clash with the Sacred Field. I have no other concerns with this page, and hope to read the rest of the story soon.
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PostSubject: Re: Amber Sareth   Amber Sareth EmptyWed Feb 06, 2013 5:19 pm

Acceptemente, seems kosher.
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PostSubject: Re: Amber Sareth   Amber Sareth EmptyWed Feb 06, 2013 5:25 pm

So, three things.

First, give a better reason for your accepts than 'kawaiiiiiiiiii~', please. Except you, Spadge, because I know -you're- kidding.

Second, on her abilities. It's a bit of a nitpick, but with 'Push', you'd be using a directed bit of magical force, not really air, because air falls under Evocation. It's a nice, adaptable, and interesting set of abilities, but you should remember that each spell takes a bit of time to weave. One other thing would be - she can remove (temporarily) 200 pounds of mass from an object? Wouldn't that allow her to negate the average person's mass entirely? (Hopefully she can't make NEGATIVE mass)

Third, Spadge, your question is a very good one, one that I've been thinking about for quite a while and keep flip-flopping on. On one hand, I say, no, it'd be using magic to fiddle with the physics around a person, and not the person itself - but then I think, if not the mass of the person (which the Sacred Field protects), what exactly is it affecting? But if that's how it works, then she wouldn't be able to do all those fun magical leaps and cushioned falls and such. It's just something I'm not sure about. Maybe the reason I didn't anticipate this problem was because my idea of abjuration wasn't necessarily changing the mass / inertia of an object, but the application of simple kinetic force; i.e, feather fall is a force pressing against the ground below you slightly underneath your weight, leap is the same, yet over your weight, and so on. More a brute application of force than reality warping mass changing stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: Amber Sareth   Amber Sareth EmptyWed Feb 06, 2013 5:27 pm

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I could understand changing the weight of of clothing and equipment, but as far as I know the Sacred Field prevents any magic from affecting someone directly.

I talked to Pat, and changing the weight of a person does not clash with the Sacred Field. I have no other concerns with this page, and hope to read the rest of the story soon.

Not so sure about that any more. See above flip-flopping.

Also, damnit, I keep forgetting I'm not on my own profile
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PostSubject: Re: Amber Sareth   Amber Sareth EmptyThu Feb 07, 2013 1:01 am

Wow, Kazuth actually being taken seriously now..
Spadge wrote:
This character is kawaii as fuck bro.
More or less..

Going to hold back my opinion until the finished work is out. Pending.
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PostSubject: Re: Amber Sareth   Amber Sareth EmptyThu Feb 07, 2013 5:27 am

I'm going to try and answer as many questions as possible to the best of my abilities, but rest assured that I'll edit the character page later. I'm still kinda forcing myself to read over the pages and pages and pages of lore.

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So, three things.

First, give a better reason for your accepts than 'kawaiiiiiiiiii~', please. Except you, Spadge, because I know -you're- kidding.

Second, on her abilities. It's a bit of a nitpick, but with 'Push', you'd be using a directed bit of magical force, not really air, because air falls under Evocation. It's a nice, adaptable, and interesting set of abilities, but you should remember that each spell takes a bit of time to weave. One other thing would be - she can remove (temporarily) 200 pounds of mass from an object? Wouldn't that allow her to negate the average person's mass entirely? (Hopefully she can't make NEGATIVE mass)

Third, Spadge, your question is a very good one, one that I've been thinking about for quite a while and keep flip-flopping on. On one hand, I say, no, it'd be using magic to fiddle with the physics around a person, and not the person itself - but then I think, if not the mass of the person (which the Sacred Field protects), what exactly is it affecting? But if that's how it works, then she wouldn't be able to do all those fun magical leaps and cushioned falls and such. It's just something I'm not sure about. Maybe the reason I didn't anticipate this problem was because my idea of abjuration wasn't necessarily changing the mass / inertia of an object, but the application of simple kinetic force; i.e, feather fall is a force pressing against the ground below you slightly underneath your weight, leap is the same, yet over your weight, and so on. More a brute application of force than reality warping mass changing stuff.

First off, I have to say that the 'kaaawaiii desu~' accepts aren't helping my case. I've seen what the Kazuths were reduced to back in old old Olden, and I can't blame people like Munroe for disliking them - if that's the reason he dislikes them to begin with. I can, however, safely say that I've been trusted with worst things and still came up clean. So, if the general dislike for this character is that it's a Kazuth and Kazuths were renown for being sexual deviants and whores back in the dark ages, I can guarantee that's not the case here.

I'll alter the abilities chart so that 'push' is more accurate to depict how it'd work, but it's basically the same thing regardless - and yes I do fully understand that spells and magic use isn't instant, I never claimed that it was, but I have said that she's adept and used to performing these certain spells, which in my mind reduces the time it takes to perform them by some undefined margin. As for reducing mass, I gave 200 lbs as a limit, I didn't want the "Well then she's OP she can just lift mountains with her mind" comment, so I gave a theoretical limit to what she can do with said magic. As for creating negative mass, I don't see how that'd work apart from probably creating a black hole... I don't see the RP value in that, sooooo... No. She can't drop mass below a certain point where the object would just collapse in on itself. I'm not a savant, I'm an art student, cut me some slack if my research isn't award winning.

I talked with Pat - if you aren't already Pat - and he has never mentioned the Sacred Fields, and I'm still in the process of reading through the pages upon pages of lore, so forgive me if I missed that part or haven't reached it yet. I'll try and find a way around that, but that seems somewhat... Unfair, were she to be denied just because of that. I did my absolute best to work with what someone with her background and age could do without nerfing her down to a laughable status, to me she seems well balanced all things considered, but again, I'm willing to compromise if anyone has some serious complaints.


Munroe wrote:
General Info: I've always made my opinions on Kazuth blatantly clear, but there's no rule against making them. Feline-esque isn't a word. Feline, an adjective meaning cat-like, is all you need.

I'm French. My English vocabulary isn't doctoral but yeah, I see your point and I'll edit out the 'esque' parts.


Munroe wrote:
Biography: In my opinion, the prologue is a bit too lengthy and overly descriptive. It also follows a rather cliched path of "Live->Find spellbook->learn magic." The second part is better, though it would've benefited from more description of the relationship between her and her mother, and maybe some specific events in her life that shaped her character. As long as it is, it still manages to be vague in those areas.

I can't help the vague writing unless you want me to go through milestones alone, which would still make the story much longer than it is now due to how many there would be. As for the cliche path, that's quite literally how it happened:

My character - a thief and artist - was caught stealing from the head of the guards' house and he took pity on her. Instead of detaining her, he just gave her a job as a maid and put her to work so that she can earn her food and shelter instead of having to steal. This pretty much put a complete stop to my character's occupation save for drawing, and drawing never really stuck with anyone - especially considering someone threw her art supplies in the river. So instead of ceasing playing her, I decided to go through a whole 'lets learn a new skill' RP, and I started with fencing. Considering my character is 5'2 back then, her with a sword was not an enjoyable experience for her, nor me. Next I thought 'magic', which, luckily, there was an abundance of people with magical abilities who were willing to teach her, and they even did go through a few lessons, but Olden fell apart shortly there after for some reason.

I understand if it's not the best story, but it's loyal to what actually happened, and I just took that as an excuse to have my own character be somewhat proficient in some magic.


Munroe wrote:
Skills & Attributes: I like how her size plays into what she can and can't do. Despite being a member of the hated Kazuth race, her natural abilities are given just enough emphasis. The magic she has is inventive.

Now let's talk about physics. Mass is what determines an object's inertia, i.e., the force required to move it. The greater the mass, the more force required to accelerate it.

Pounds are in fact units of force. They represent the force of gravity acting on an object. A 1-kilogram object weighs roughly 2.2 pounds in earth gravity.

Air resistance means objects can have a terminal velocity rather than continuing to accelerate (and it also means objects don't fall at the same rate). Featherfall would work exceptionally well in slowing a descent, as air resistance would literally make one fall like a feather if their mass was reduced enough.

The mechanics seem sound, if we're willing to accept that magic can somehow alter mass without otherwise affecting matter then any of these spells are possible. Unless I'm mistaken, the Sacred Field would prevent anyone's body (excluding their clothes or equipment) from being manipulated directly, unless Amber touched them. She could also manipulate her own body without much trouble.

I love you. The only thing I have to say about this is that I had no idea about the Sacred Field, nor was I told or hinted about it. When I passed the idea of Amber using this sort of magic, he just sorta nodded and fell silent for a few days. I guess he had a stroke.

I'm not going to spit into someone's face when they're trying to defend my work and know better than I do. So, yay.


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Goals: Make friends? Lol yeah right

Not sure if joking or not, but I think making connections and getting on a few people's good sides is a smart move for someone who plans on stealing and then possibly looking for a place to lay low.

I 'unno, maybe I'm not doing it right.


I'm not sure if that's everything, but it covers the questions and criticism I've actually thought over.

Also, the only WiP part of my character sheet is the birthplace due to some mild confusion that I need to clear up with Pat, or anybody really. So unless knowing where she was born is absolutely critical, I'm ready to play her as soon as possible.
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PostSubject: Re: Amber Sareth   Amber Sareth EmptyThu Feb 07, 2013 9:42 am

I was joking about the making friends bit. And I am rather picky when it comes to grammar, it's not a huge deal. I probably can't speak French as well as you can speak English.

Anyways, all of the issues I brought up were addressed. One last nitpick might be that magic that alters reality (which is what her mass-changing spells essentially are) is supposed to be really, really hard to use. But that's the only magic she knows, and she's not exactly great at it, so I guess it kind of balances out?
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PostSubject: Re: Amber Sareth   Amber Sareth EmptyThu Feb 07, 2013 10:26 am

Pat told me that Abjuration was the easiest field to learn, but even then I based her magic on being purely 'passive' use. She's not able to pick someone up and smash them against anything as much as she's able to trip them by suddenly giving their shoes a sudden change in mass.

If you have any abilities specifically that you think needs nerf'ing, go ahead and tell me. I'm already editing 'Push' thanks to AR's comment on it.
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PostSubject: Re: Amber Sareth   Amber Sareth EmptyThu Feb 07, 2013 12:38 pm

you people blatantly accepting are all the reason you keep this community perpetually unpopular and dead
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PostSubject: Re: Amber Sareth   Amber Sareth EmptyThu Feb 07, 2013 1:02 pm

Blitz wrote:
you people blatantly accepting are all the reason you keep this community perpetually unpopular and dead

I'm constantly amazed by your ability to disappear and reappear at the worst times.
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PostSubject: Re: Amber Sareth   Amber Sareth EmptyFri Feb 08, 2013 12:13 am

Blitz wrote:
you people blatantly accepting are all the reason you keep this community perpetually unpopular and dead

Correction. It's all Newman's fault.

Good to have you back Wolfy, Québecois though you may be.

Aussi je pense qu'il y a rien que vous avez besoin de changer avez votre biographie.

Accept in any case, this page is obviously well thought out and lore approved.
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PostSubject: Re: Amber Sareth   Amber Sareth EmptyFri Feb 08, 2013 8:12 am

Venom OPS wrote:
Blitz wrote:
you people blatantly accepting are all the reason you keep this community perpetually unpopular and dead

I'm constantly amazed by your ability to disappear and reappear at the worst times.

i always lurk to see when someone revives aeria for another 3-4 months of roleplay
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PostSubject: Re: Amber Sareth   Amber Sareth EmptyFri Feb 08, 2013 8:32 am

Rutabega wrote:
Aussi je pense qu'il y a rien que vous avez besoin de changer avez votre biographie.

For the rest of the world.
Rutabega in paraphrased English wrote:
Also, there is nothing I think you need to change in your biography.
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